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Date: Monday, February 04, 2008
Time: 12:18 PM

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There is still the requirement to be a resident of Tennessee to become registered as a forester in Tennessee. What happens to Kentucky foresters that presently practice in Tennessee? Since Kentucky does not register foresters, they do not qualify for resiprosity. Even if they did it is still a judgement call whether they would be registered or just practicing at the Board's descretion. Are Tennessee foresters that afraid of competition from Kentucky foresters? North Carolina has a similar regulation requiring references to be from North Carolina. If you are not allowed to practice in a certain State how can you become registered in that State, even by reciprosity. I do not presently practice in Tennessee but I might want to in the future. For that reason it is important to me to register in Tennessee even though I am a Kentucky resident. Rick E. Horn


Date: Thursday, December 20, 2007
Time: 02:25 PM

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For the "biannual" renewal fee, it might be preferrable to have a "biennial" renewal fee. [p. 5 and elsewhere] If referendum fails upon voting: Article 1, Section 1, Education Strike "or higher degree" from all subsections. Require a B.S. Forestry. Does not need to be SAF accredited. I have a higher degree, and it does not make one a "Forester" by any stretch of imagination or enacted definition. Likewise, just because someone obtains a professorship in a Forestry school, that does not make them a Forester either. It seems to be rare these days for any SAF Accredited school to have professors who have a BS Forestry. They are hard to find, possibly due to lack of recruitment to pull foresters into graduate school. I am offended that those students who cannot complete the Forestry curriculum (failing grades) switch over to something less arduous; then get jobs in forestry and become "Foresters" either by legislation or some employer entity "giving" them the title of "forester."


Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2007
Time: 10:25 AM

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I agree with the movement to certify foresters in TN. I have just moved to TN from AL, where professional foresters must meet requirements to be registered foresters in the state. I graduated from Auburn in 2006 with a degree in forestry and would like to add to my resume' that I am a certified professional forester. I didn't practice forestry long enough in AL to qualify for the exam, so I would like to have something in place in TN to show that I am a professional and have had proper training in order to perform my duties as a forester. I believe it will seperate true professionals in our field from individuals claiming to be eduated in the forestry field and its practices. Also, Forestry is a professional career and individuals meeting the requirements for certification should be held to a higher standard and recognized for their achievements. Thanks, Matt Coate coatemm@yahoo.com


Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2007
Time: 10:25 AM

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I agree with the movement to certify foresters in TN. I have just moved to TN from AL, where professional foresters must meet requirements to be registered foresters in the state. I graduated from Auburn in 2006 with a degree in forestry and would like to add to my resume' that I am a certified professional forester. I didn't practice forestry long enough in AL to qualify for the exam, so I would like to have something in place in TN to show that I am a professional and have had proper training in order to perform my duties as a forester. I believe it will seperate true professionals in our field from individuals claiming to be eduated in the forestry field and its practices. Also, Forestry is a professional career and individuals meeting the requirements for certification should be held to a higher standard and recognized for their achievements. Thanks, Matt Coate coatemm@yahoo.com


Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2007
Time: 02:14 PM

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Date: Friday, August 31, 2007
Time: 12:51 PM

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The proposed law does not address state foresters from the Tennessee Division of Forestry or TWRA doing state work on private lands. I believe that this type of situation should be exempted from registration requirements and covered under Article 1, Registration Required; Exceptions, with the following suggested additional wording: "This chapter shall not be construed to prevent or to affect: The practice of forestry by officers and employees of the State of Tennessee on state-owned lands, or on private lands leased and managed by the State for public benefit, or on private lands where landowners have solicited state forest management assistance." I do not agree that the grandfathering process should include individuals without either a forestry degree or a natural resources degree with sufficient forestry coursework, as stated in the proposed law under required education, i.e., 1 (C) Sixteen (16) years of professional forestry experience within the past 20 years. If one of the purposes of registration is to enhance the public's image of and confidence in professional foresters, I would hope that there would be both a college degree and experience required. Under Education, I propose adding the word "college" before the word "courses" to assure the courses were taken in college, and to also have a minimum of semester or quarter hours attached to the eleven course minimum, as follows: (C) Hold a bachelor’s or higher degree in a natural resources curriculum and have completed a minimum of eleven college courses (minimum of xx semester hours or xx quarter hours) approved by the Board across all four broad areas of study as follows..... Thank you for you good, hard work on this issue.


Date: Thursday, August 30, 2007
Time: 08:26 AM

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What is the reason for the proposed Forester Registration? Is there proof that the public is being harmed by the actions of professional foresters? If so, would another layer of bureaucracy improve that? Federal foresters are exempt, State foresters are exempt, foresters working on their employer's lands are exempt, timber buyers are exempt - should this be more accurately titled "The Consulting Foresters Protection Act"? As a long time registered forester in two states, I can attest to the expense and hassle of getting and keeping registration. The benefit to date has been a wall certificate and the right to call myself a forester. Let's work on some of the real issues that are affecting the practice of forestry.


Date: Monday, August 27, 2007
Time: 06:16 PM

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Question I have and Brant Miller may have already commented is what about a State forester doing management recommendation or overseeing forestry activities on a piece of land leased to the STate/TWRA. Would that State employee exemption apply? I recommend that this state employee exemption should apply when a State employed forester is working on behalf of the State on leased lands under State developed management plans, recommendation on forestry actions, and actual on site supervision of planned actions. I beleive this should also apply to foresters of the Division of Forestry providing forestry expertise to a private land owner, when it is part of their job, ie., Forerst Stewardship Program. Oversite of management actions in a program like Forest Stewardship is probably not overseen by the State employee so if a forester is hired by landowner to oversee management actions, this forester should be registered. John Gregory


Date: Monday, August 27, 2007
Time: 10:27 AM

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Just a few comments on the Tennessee Registered Forester draft…I’m certainly excited about it and intend to apply as soon as it’s available. A proposed change to the definition of forestry – “the profession embracing the science, art, and practice of creating, managing, using, and conserving forests and their associated resources for human benefit in an ethical and sustainable manner to meet desired goals, needs, and values.” Should the short course include a section on sustainability and silviculture? Perhaps relating to growth and drain or volume and area control? Or relating to acceptable silvicultural practices and tradeoffs available to meet landowner’s needs? Also, concerning ethics. Will/Should there be a code of ethics defined for registered foresters. It would seem that something similar to the SAF's code of ethics could be quite useful especially if someone's registrations needed to be revoked. If there will be a code of ethics would it be appropriate for the board to draft that or should there be broader input.


Date: Friday, August 24, 2007
Time: 02:54 PM

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I don't like the idea of allowing Natural Resource graduates into the practice of Forestry. Either they elect to become a Forester in school or they don't. We have convoluted the practice of Forestry thus far by hiring Natural Resource people and they don't have the pride or vision in the profession of Forestry. Is the Tennessee Short Course covering the laws in the State of Tennessee? If so I endorse it. If it is a test on Forestry practices, then I would have to say that if you are qualifying people by Grandfathering it would not be wise. Many practicing Foresters do not have access to the latest technology which has a way of finding its way unto such tests. The idea that you must live in the State of Tennessee to be grandfathered is ridiculus. There are many Foresters that live in bordering states that practice in Tennessee. That would exclude them from registering in Tennessee. The argument that Tenessee will accept reciprocity with bordering states is also ridiculus because Kentucky does not have a registering law and the other states do not have enough similarity to qualify for reciprocity. Exclusion of non-resident Foresters now practicing in Tennessee is what would happen. I believe the three references that are required from Tennessee residents should be sufficient evidence to qualify Foresters that practice in Tennessee no matter their state of residence. Rick E. Horn, CF, CA, PLS, CPESC Northern Kentucky Forestry Services 422 Clay Street Erlanger, Kentucky 41018-1466 859-468-1108


Date: Tuesday, August 21, 2007
Time: 12:46 PM

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Reciprocity It is my opinion that foresters working in TN who have become registered in another state adjacent or in close proximity to TN in the absence of a TN forester registration should be exempt from the short course and examination. It is unfair to expect these foresters to spend the time and money agian to achieve registration in TN since this opportunity was not available when they acheived resitration in another state. I realize the importance of understanding forestry laws and principle specific to TN. But their work history in TN along with examination and registration from another state should be sufficent. Thank you.


Date: Monday, August 20, 2007
Time: 12:44 PM

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Mr. Walters and Dr. Merker, As you know, since my retirement 11/01/05 from KDF, I've secured certain forest certification auditing credentials from Smartwood (FSC), ATFS (both as an Inspector and Lead Auditor for Group/Third Party), EMS Lead Auditor (ISO-14001-2004, through Bureau Veritas, one of the seven SFI certification bodies), and even have a "verbal green light" to conduct Green Tag certification audits from Keith Argow himself - although I'm not an ACF member. If the forest certification tide ever reaches the Ohio and Tennessee Valleys, would the Board consider certification audits "practicing forestry" and if so, how would the registration requirements affect my opportinity to conduct such audits in Tennessee? Robert L. Volk, CF/CFA


Date: Saturday, August 18, 2007
Time: 10:55 PM

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I am currently the President of the Tennessee Urban Forestry Council and a licensing program for ALL arborists and not just Foresters has been a long time goal of the state council. With a very large majority of our population living in urban areas, the rural interface is becoming more and more urban. I hope and request that your proposal includes urban foresters, certified arborists and ALL forestry in general. If anyone is going to be calling themselves an arborist in Tennessee, they should be licensed. Please call me to set up a meeting the council at your earliest convenience. Patrick Haller President - Tennessee Urban Forestry Council cell - 931-261-5885 email - Patrick.Haller@qualitytrees.net


Date: Friday, August 17, 2007
Time: 04:23 PM

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Page 4 (A) Hold a bachelor's or higher degree in a forestry curriculum from a (remove -school approved by the Board)(insert -Hold a bachelor's or higher degree in a forestry curriculum from a school accredited by the Society of American Foresters) or hold current and valid Certified Forester credentials from Society of American Foresters or; Remove(B) Hold a bachelor's or higher degree in a forestry curriculum from a school accredited by the Society of American Foresters or; Quit pussy footing - make it applicants choice - written or oral exam -Complete the “Tennessee Specific Forest Practices Shortcourse” as prescribed by the Board. The Board shall register only those applicants who meet the requirements of this section (C) Continuing Education - 18 to much - 12 + 1 hr ethics plenty - hours certified by UT extension and/or SAF Reciprocity - no to ((2) Has completed the Tennessee specific shortcourse as prescribed by the Board)


Date: Friday, August 17, 2007
Time: 04:08 PM

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I believe the forester's should be registered. What is the due process and potential penalty for a complaint against a registered forester? What is the penalty for practicing without a license/registration? Are the penalty's enough to deter the crime? Have other state's forester registration programs been reviewed for good workable templates of design? Thanks.....TIM


Date: Friday, August 17, 2007
Time: 03:45 PM

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Just took a quick look at the Powerpoint. Not sure I understand the "Board of Forestry's" function. Also, it would have 2 NIPF members I believe it said. What does it thake to be an "NIPF" member of this board? Would a NIPF [Owner] have to own at least 10(?) acres of forest. Would a state-approved LMP be required of that person(s) forest? NIPF owners may or may not know anything about forestry...


Date: Friday, August 17, 2007
Time: 09:48 AM

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What actions, practices, plans, etc. will be included under the definition of "forestry"? I assume tree planting vendors will not be required to meet these standards but the person that wrote the tree planting plan would? I assume herbicide applicators will not be required to meet these standards but the person that wrote the herbicide prescription would? (This one is a bit tricky because some herbicide applicators also provide the prescription!). In some situations consulting forestry firms perform the application and planning. In these cases the firm will be required to meet these standards. Right? The point being the line between "forestry vendor" and "forester" can be gray.


Date: Thursday, August 16, 2007
Time: 09:22 PM

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Will there be enough money in the "Professional Foresters Fund" to pay the expenses required to operate the board, especially during the first year or two, when someone must be hired to design and print application forms, receive and compile applications, answer telephone and email inquiries, prepare and present short courses, and prepare and grade examinations?


Date: Thursday, August 16, 2007
Time: 03:35 PM

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Just a few quick observations and comments. 1. What is the problem and what is the economic benefit to creating a new level of beauracracy? Is the current practice of forestry and its citizens suffering because we don't have this law? The greatest risk probably comes from unscrupulous timber buyers and they are exempted. 2. There seems to be a possibility that SAF Certified Foresters would not be allowed to use the forester title without being licensed by TN. 3. The second exception clause seems to be so broad that it exempts everyone. 4. Masters degrees are specialization credentials which by itself doesn't necessarily create the same level of knowledge as a 4 year bachelors degree in forestry and the ability to practice forestry. Much the same way that a 2 year ranger program doesn't do so. 5. The qualification requirements should be pretty similar to those in other registration states and in particular those adjoining TN. 6. Experience should continue to count after the grandfathering period expires. As an example you could have a 2 year graduate with 9 years of experience who will never be able to get registered under this plan. The only avenue open to them is to lose their job because they don't qualify under the grandfather clause or the full requirements. 7. The $200 registration fee is too high and will pose a significant barrier to many who are qualified to become registered. The registration fee should be lower, particulary during the first two years, to get more people to register. 8. What does the veterans preference according to law mean? 9. Is there a special format, stamp, or seal that is to be used? 10. There should be an appeals process after revocation. The current language puts too much absolute power in the hands of the Board. 11. How are you going to treat international and national consultants who are temporarily assigned to projects in TN? 12. After a person moves to TN and receive a reciprocity card do they have to keep their registration in the other state?


Date: Thursday, August 16, 2007
Time: 02:52 PM

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Just a few observations. 1. Why can the Board only meet once per month? 2. Can the recertification process be synced with the SAF - certified forester program? Not a major issue but it would be convenient to both at the same time. 3. Is there an unanticipated impact on City Foresters? Some City Foresters are managing natural resources and are not covered by the Exceptions section.


Date: Thursday, August 16, 2007
Time: 09:26 AM

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It appears that too many foresters are exempted by this proposal